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Posted - 2012.01.14 11:02:00 -
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Rather bad troll but I'll give you 1/10 because you're likely to catch many.
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Posted - 2012.01.14 21:52:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Large Collidable Object wrote:Rather bad troll but I'll give you 1/10 because you're likely to catch many. OP's in Brick. Who knows if tlorring or srs
Oh - they weren't that bad until they accepted all kinds of ex-R.A.G.E. and ME crap...
Anyway - I think he's mildly amusing - especially in his other thread where he continuously displayed an astonishing amount of idiocy and cluelessness.
I increase my rating to a 2/10.
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Posted - 2012.01.15 00:01:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:DarkAegix wrote:Guys, guys, guys.
The Talos effectively tracks better than the Cane because it can fit dual webs. Practically speaking, the Talos feels like it tracks better because: - People tend to think they have a 160m sig radius, when in reality they have a 940m sig radius from MWD sig bloom. This means that you would normally expect the Talos to have a > 50% tracking penalty but instead it has a ~50% tracking bonus. -Liang
What on earth does a ships signature radius have to do with its tracking? No matter if I swap 'they' for canes or zealots, or 'signature radius' for sig resolution, I can't make any sense of that sentence...
[edit] - ah - 'they' refers to 'people' nvm
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Posted - 2012.01.15 00:16:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:
Turning on your MWD balloons your sig radius, which means that people track you better. This means that while you might expect BS guns to have a > 50% tracking penalty against you, they actually have ~50% tracking bonus towards you. I don't see whats unclear about it, but that's undoubtedly because I wrote it. :(
-Liang
See above edit - i misunderstood you because I thought 'they' refers to any ship mentioned in the thread and the numbers not fitting any of them, whereas it referred to 'the people' and you just making a random example.
I understand what you meant now, yet i doubt there are many people you encounter in pvp that are not aware of MWD sig bloom and act accordingly (ie fit an AB or only pulse their MWD until they're in the desired position...), but that's just a wild guess, of course.
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:54:00 -
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Cyzlaki wrote:DarkAegix wrote:A 1600mm Cane w/ HAMs can get 27% less dps and 56% better ehp than a Talos, as well as having better tracking and selectable damage types.
There's still a place for the Cane. Deimos does everything better than an armor cane
A HAC doing something better than a BC?
*gasp* - the imbalance!
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Posted - 2012.01.16 01:29:00 -
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Cyzlaki wrote:
Yep. The point is, when going to fit a cane, there is always a superior alternative to it. And it's horrible in logi fleets anyway
Ok - I'm in troll feeding mood...
And your problem with that is?
You claim a curse is better at neuting than a cane - true - you claim is a deimos can keep up with a cane - probably true.
Probably that's because a ship that's basically free to lose and can be flown by any 1-month old is supposed to be worse than more skill- and cost intensive specialized ships in their specialized roles.
Sheesh - what's next?
"Reapers are pointless because I can't solo an Erebus with it"?
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Posted - 2012.01.16 02:19:00 -
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Cyzlaki wrote:
I don't have a problem with it and I'm not trolling. I don't know why you all get so defensive. What I'm saying is is, we're not 1 month old characters anymore, and yet people are still flying canes in horrible fleet compositions instead of the superior alternatives. I am asking why, when it is pointless to do so. Or maybe there has been something I've overlooked. If this thread is any indication, people fly acane over other ships because of it's tank, which I find rather amusing as it has quite a poor tank for a BC
Because it is not pointless - a uniform cane-gang is easy to form, mobile and versatile, because everyone can fly a cane - this game has been cane/drake/dramiel-online for the last three years.
FC a gang for a low SP corp and ask for ships - everyone can fly a cane and is willing to bring it thanks to low cost - ask for a specific hac/recon/logi combo and you're lost because of people who think the can fly the ship because of all V skills but can't fly it at all or people who say they can fly it because they can sit in it.
All in all it boils down to the problem of T1 insurance - flying a cane is no risk at all whereas the loss of 5 HACs/Recons costs more than a carrier being popped.
Of course that's not because of things being expensive (thanks to incursions, everyone's a billionaire), but because of K/D faggottery.
To sum this drunken rant up:
- If you think you'd do better in a well-composed HAC/Recon gang, do it if you can.
- If you think you fly with a blob of 3 month old casuals who think they own, field canes.
- If you think you're flying with total imbeciles that are outsmarted by a keyboard macro, fly drakes.
We'll see where the Talos settles in, but OP? no - not at all - maybe slightly favourable under some circumstances after the null buff...
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